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Fink Angel
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The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 16:49:00 -
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Edited by: Fink Angel on 27/06/2007 16:48:26
 Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: Eskalin
(CCP) you have promised 1000 ship fleet battles for years but where is it? will it ever happen?
Please point me to the post/article/advertisement that says "1000 ship battles"? All I've ever seen was "Huge fleet battles".. It seems all the wailing and gnashing of teeth over this is that afaik the Devs always considered 100 on 100 a huge fight whilst the metagaming vent/ts phenominon of bringing along the whole 1000 man alliance has blown that figure out of the water to the servers and ultimately players woe.. 
So will 1000 ship lag free battles ever happen as a design feature of Eve? Probably.. Maybe with the new DX9 client but don't hold your breath.. 
How about this?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/news/video/81000/nb/81851_16x9_nb.asx
That's my primary beef with CCP, that their publicty machine still rolls along claiming that huge fleet battles are fine and dandy. No problems, nothing to see here.
Edit: linkage.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 17:05:00 -
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Originally by: Threv Echandari
Does not equal 1000 Ship Battles. However it does accuratly describe whats going on right now with the "Great War"
Half way through the link, if you're bored by the beginning!
Not sure who that guy is, but he's clearly a representative of CCP, and clearly telling porky pies!
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 17:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Quote: "Yestarday we had a 1000 ship fleet battle" Thats all he mentioned and quickly passed on to another topic..
So making a false claim is OK as long as you don't dwell on it too long? 
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
How was it a false staement? I'm fairly sure it happend.. It would have been false to then go on about how awesome said battle was and how lag free it was..
Maybe "1000 people wanted to have a fleet battle" would be closer to reality. As the server can't handle 300 Vs 100 which is way off 500 Vs 500, it doesn't seem possible. If it ever was possible, then they need to start unpicking code changes since then.
Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Actually that he even brought it up at all hints that they might be getting a handle on the whole blob phenominom and feels that a quick little bit of info would be alright.. You have to admit that lag as a whole has droppend dramaticaly for nearly every section of eve except the really huge fleet fights and certain market hubs.. I know for one that I rarely ever experiance lag at any point in the game anymore.. Sometimes I get a spike now and then but overall its smooth as butter.. With three clints at once even in a mission! But thats not what the OP is complaining about.. Its the uber blob fleet warfare lagging out thier offensive.. And it *will* eventually get fixed.. Eventually.. 
I agree about lag in general, and agree it's not really what the OP is complaining about. I've said my piece and am concerned about derailing the thread, so I'll stop this line of conversation now.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 18:03:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Natacha
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Quote: "Yestarday we had a 1000 ship fleet battle"
He didn't say all the fleet was in the same system now did he?
This is called PR spin, and CCP will be doing this whenever possible. As has already been pointed out, noobs don't participate in fleet combat or a lot of the stuff in game that isn't currently up to snuff. As long as noobs keep subscribing and turning over, this keeps the company coffers filled and corporate expansion plans on track.
How can you have a fleet battle that's not in the same system?
Maybe he considers black screen on jump in as part of the battle. Yor pod pilot was knocked unconscious on exiting the jump game!
OK, here's the exact quote.
He said "For instance the other day we had a gang battle, <corrcts himself>, a fleet battle of over one thousand people fighting in the same solar system, so you can imagine the amount of co-ordination and so forth needed ..."
It's not PR spin. If someone sold me a car and said it could do 200 MPH and could actually only do 50 MPH, I wouldn't call that PR spin!
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 18:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: Lady Natacha
Quote:
Quote: "Yestarday we had a 1000 ship fleet battle"
He didn't say all the fleet was in the same system now did he?
Exactly..
You've actually watched and listened to the link, yes? The part where he says "... in the same solar system ..." kinda clarifies this.
You'd make a terrible lawyer. Lionel Hutz would run rings around you!
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.06.27 22:08:00 -
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They need to get in a genius. The world's leading authority on MMOG lag issues, or suchlike.
I think it might need looking at with a completely fresh set of eyes.
Like for years and years, compression had been lossless and run length encoded, that sort of thing. Then someone came up with the idea that you can throw stuff away that can't be percieved, and we ended up with JPEG and MP3.
We desperately need this leap up to the next level for a virtual world to support thousands of people in the same place at the same time.
... and no, I have no idea what the answer is.
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